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		<title>By: Friar</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a step in the right direction..!

We need more billionaires like that!

&lt;em&gt;Friar&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/perfesser-friar-gets-elemental/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Perfesser Friar gets Elemental.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a step in the right direction..!</p>
<p>We need more billionaires like that!</p>
<p><em>Friar&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/perfesser-friar-gets-elemental/' rel="nofollow">Perfesser Friar gets Elemental.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Brett Legree</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Legree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politics of war are difficult to discuss because there often seems to be more at work behind dictators.  Everyone knew Hitler was up to no good, but they just talked with him - why?  Joseph Kennedy (JFK&#039;s father) was a prominent businessman and the inaugural chairman of the SEC.  He was involved with insider trading up until the crash of 1929, and he cashed out just in time... between 1929 and 1935 his fortune went from $14M to $180M.  He was the US Ambassador to the UK from 1938 to 1940 and rejected Churchill&#039;s warnings about Hitler, choosing instead to side with Chamberlain.  Perhaps his family had something to gain from the war - many prominent families made a lot of money from WW2.

Similarly with Iraq - Saddam Hussein was essentially put into power by the US Government.  Many families and corporations have made a lot of money from both selling weapons used in that war and in the rebuilding efforts after that war.

It sort of makes you think that this kind of thing is intentional.  Let someone nefarious get into power and ignore them, or plain out set them up - let them cause havoc for a while - and then swoop in and &quot;liberate&quot; the people - and much of the resources of the liberated country...

I often wonder who the true war criminals really are.

&lt;em&gt;Brett Legree&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/6weeksca/~3/430665524/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;viking fridays - tears in the rain.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politics of war are difficult to discuss because there often seems to be more at work behind dictators.  Everyone knew Hitler was up to no good, but they just talked with him &#8211; why?  Joseph Kennedy (JFK&#8217;s father) was a prominent businessman and the inaugural chairman of the SEC.  He was involved with insider trading up until the crash of 1929, and he cashed out just in time&#8230; between 1929 and 1935 his fortune went from $14M to $180M.  He was the US Ambassador to the UK from 1938 to 1940 and rejected Churchill&#8217;s warnings about Hitler, choosing instead to side with Chamberlain.  Perhaps his family had something to gain from the war &#8211; many prominent families made a lot of money from WW2.</p>
<p>Similarly with Iraq &#8211; Saddam Hussein was essentially put into power by the US Government.  Many families and corporations have made a lot of money from both selling weapons used in that war and in the rebuilding efforts after that war.</p>
<p>It sort of makes you think that this kind of thing is intentional.  Let someone nefarious get into power and ignore them, or plain out set them up &#8211; let them cause havoc for a while &#8211; and then swoop in and &#8220;liberate&#8221; the people &#8211; and much of the resources of the liberated country&#8230;</p>
<p>I often wonder who the true war criminals really are.</p>
<p><em>Brett Legree&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/6weeksca/~3/430665524/' rel="nofollow">viking fridays &#8211; tears in the rain.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: stephcolin</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>stephcolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to add to that first paragraph that I would not dispute that terrorism, mutilation, starvation, etc., any actions disregarding human rights, are gravely wrong and I would not hesitate in that case to maintain my belief and try to spread it. And in this case, others like me have felt the same and have—good news!—effected positive change. 

But there are instances in which we act no better, you must admit, which only creates a struggle between two forces that will never actually solve anything at all but rather only ultimately end in the assertion of power over the other after the other loses. Obviously, this creates animosity and retaliation. We need win-win situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to add to that first paragraph that I would not dispute that terrorism, mutilation, starvation, etc., any actions disregarding human rights, are gravely wrong and I would not hesitate in that case to maintain my belief and try to spread it. And in this case, others like me have felt the same and have—good news!—effected positive change. </p>
<p>But there are instances in which we act no better, you must admit, which only creates a struggle between two forces that will never actually solve anything at all but rather only ultimately end in the assertion of power over the other after the other loses. Obviously, this creates animosity and retaliation. We need win-win situations.</p>
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		<title>By: stephcolin</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>stephcolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Friar: Certainly, if we see wrong—or what we perceive to be wrong—we shouldn&#039;t just ignore it, hope it will sort itself out, or go away. As you can see from a few other articles here, I (we) support action for good. The trouble is when we start acting like imperialists, as though our solutions, beliefs, practices, etc., are civilized and better and right when others&#039; are not. It&#039;s this superior attitude that has actually caused a great deal of animosity and war. 

I agree that Hitler could likely not have been reasoned with. It&#039;s my belief he was a rather evil nut, though you have to admit, he had a few strengths we could learn from, such as dreaming big and rallying crowds to support him. Imagine what we could do with those schematics if our efforts were properly aimed and intended. 

I&#039;ve been angry enough about the lack of human rights and about totalitarian and authoritarian and superior behavior when it comes to how people are treated to say we ought to kill some bastards, but in retrospect, what, really, does that sort out? It may remove one man from the equation, or even several, but more power-hungry and wackos with bizarre and terrible ideas will emerge. Our thinking, our methods, have to change entirely, because it&#039;s obvious that after years and years the same tactics are not working at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Friar: Certainly, if we see wrong—or what we perceive to be wrong—we shouldn&#8217;t just ignore it, hope it will sort itself out, or go away. As you can see from a few other articles here, I (we) support action for good. The trouble is when we start acting like imperialists, as though our solutions, beliefs, practices, etc., are civilized and better and right when others&#8217; are not. It&#8217;s this superior attitude that has actually caused a great deal of animosity and war. </p>
<p>I agree that Hitler could likely not have been reasoned with. It&#8217;s my belief he was a rather evil nut, though you have to admit, he had a few strengths we could learn from, such as dreaming big and rallying crowds to support him. Imagine what we could do with those schematics if our efforts were properly aimed and intended. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been angry enough about the lack of human rights and about totalitarian and authoritarian and superior behavior when it comes to how people are treated to say we ought to kill some bastards, but in retrospect, what, really, does that sort out? It may remove one man from the equation, or even several, but more power-hungry and wackos with bizarre and terrible ideas will emerge. Our thinking, our methods, have to change entirely, because it&#8217;s obvious that after years and years the same tactics are not working at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Friar</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brett

I agree with you about Bill and Melinda

Remember 15 years ago, everyone made fun of Bill Gates, because he was so damned rich? 

Well, they&#039;re not making fun of him now.   At least he&#039;s DOING something constructive with his wealth!

I wish people like him and Melinda would make the front pages (instead of bosons (there&#039;s that word again!) like Paris Hilton, or Donald Trump.


(Well, I guess this is why we read the WooHoo Report,eh?) :-)

&lt;em&gt;Friar&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/perfesser-friar-gets-elemental/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Perfesser Friar gets Elemental.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brett</p>
<p>I agree with you about Bill and Melinda</p>
<p>Remember 15 years ago, everyone made fun of Bill Gates, because he was so damned rich? </p>
<p>Well, they&#8217;re not making fun of him now.   At least he&#8217;s DOING something constructive with his wealth!</p>
<p>I wish people like him and Melinda would make the front pages (instead of bosons (there&#8217;s that word again!) like Paris Hilton, or Donald Trump.</p>
<p>(Well, I guess this is why we read the WooHoo Report,eh?) <img src='http://woohooreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Friar</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@steph

I&#039;m dont&#039; wanna get too political.   Of course, love is better than war.  And it&#039;s obvious that most of the wars have just been stupid and immoral. 

But sometimes, if there are insane people abusing power or attacking you, you can&#039;t sit back and let it happen.  Sometimes you have to take a stand.

WWII for example. What if we said &quot;Let&#039;s not fight&quot;.   Well, I don&#039;t think Hitler would have agreed.  We&#039;d probably have  ended up with the Swastika on the Peace Tower. (Not to mention what would have happened to the Jews!) 

Or recently, what about the Taliban, killing God knows how many people, including women and glrls for just wanting to get an education? 

Or Mugabe, starving his own people? 

So what do we do?    We can sit back, and try to talk and reason with these leaders (for years on end, maybe),  Meanwhile we watch millions of people die. 

Or we can go in fighting, start a war.   That&#039;s shitty too.  But we might remove the evil and save more lives in the end. 

So which is ethically the better thing to do? 

There&#039;s no easy answer!  (I certainly don&#039;t have one!).   Just that I think that there are cases when using force might be the lesser of two evils.

&lt;em&gt;Friar&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/perfesser-friar-gets-elemental/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Perfesser Friar gets Elemental.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steph</p>
<p>I&#8217;m dont&#8217; wanna get too political.   Of course, love is better than war.  And it&#8217;s obvious that most of the wars have just been stupid and immoral. </p>
<p>But sometimes, if there are insane people abusing power or attacking you, you can&#8217;t sit back and let it happen.  Sometimes you have to take a stand.</p>
<p>WWII for example. What if we said &#8220;Let&#8217;s not fight&#8221;.   Well, I don&#8217;t think Hitler would have agreed.  We&#8217;d probably have  ended up with the Swastika on the Peace Tower. (Not to mention what would have happened to the Jews!) </p>
<p>Or recently, what about the Taliban, killing God knows how many people, including women and glrls for just wanting to get an education? </p>
<p>Or Mugabe, starving his own people? </p>
<p>So what do we do?    We can sit back, and try to talk and reason with these leaders (for years on end, maybe),  Meanwhile we watch millions of people die. </p>
<p>Or we can go in fighting, start a war.   That&#8217;s shitty too.  But we might remove the evil and save more lives in the end. </p>
<p>So which is ethically the better thing to do? </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no easy answer!  (I certainly don&#8217;t have one!).   Just that I think that there are cases when using force might be the lesser of two evils.</p>
<p><em>Friar&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://deepfriar.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/perfesser-friar-gets-elemental/' rel="nofollow">Perfesser Friar gets Elemental.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: stephcolin</title>
		<link>http://woohooreport.com/2008/10/gates-foundation-invests-in-104-novel-ideas-for-global-health/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>stephcolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. I love when people are truly generous with what they&#039;ve been given. This is a lot of money we&#039;re talking about, and it&#039;s not just this foundation; they do much else as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. I love when people are truly generous with what they&#8217;ve been given. This is a lot of money we&#8217;re talking about, and it&#8217;s not just this foundation; they do much else as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Legree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Legree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been a lot of sci-fi type stories where a civilization goes beyond &quot;physical war&quot; and everything is simulated.

We should just do that instead - the modern games are pretty realistic.

And think of it, some of us could moonlight as soldiers!

(I&#039;m pretty handy with a rocket launcher, you know...)

Seriously though you have to take your hat off to Bill and Melinda for doing this.  So many businesspeople or celebrities talk the talk, but they are walking the walk.

&lt;em&gt;Brett Legree&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/6weeksca/~3/430665524/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;viking fridays - tears in the rain.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been a lot of sci-fi type stories where a civilization goes beyond &#8220;physical war&#8221; and everything is simulated.</p>
<p>We should just do that instead &#8211; the modern games are pretty realistic.</p>
<p>And think of it, some of us could moonlight as soldiers!</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m pretty handy with a rocket launcher, you know&#8230;)</p>
<p>Seriously though you have to take your hat off to Bill and Melinda for doing this.  So many businesspeople or celebrities talk the talk, but they are walking the walk.</p>
<p><em>Brett Legree&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/6weeksca/~3/430665524/' rel="nofollow">viking fridays &#8211; tears in the rain.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: stephcolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephcolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they stopped fighting, there would be nothing to fight against. Love is a far more powerful force than war, and of course not at all destructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they stopped fighting, there would be nothing to fight against. Love is a far more powerful force than war, and of course not at all destructive.</p>
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		<title>By: stephcolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephcolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree with you guys on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with you guys on this.</p>
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